A Bugout Bag & a Glock 19 - 041

[Mark Vanderberg]

[MattCFII]

Congratulations on the promotion Eric!   

Glad the Hawkepaks bag and the Glock is working out for you, I knew they would.  I 100% agree the reset trigger pull on a Glock is great!  It's kinda like having  another gun with good double action on the first shot and then using the reset to have a nice single action-ish pull.  Of course it not exactly what it is, just trying to compare it to other more "normal" actions. 

Remember though, don't just limit yourself to the 17 rounders if you are going for the larger mags   We shot a 33 rounder out of my 26 this weekend   Yes it's more of a novelty on that gun, but tons of fun.  FWIW my EDC reload mag is a 17 mag with a Pearce +3 floorplate and a grip extension for 20 rounds total and a Glock 17ish grip. You could do the same for the 17 mags in the 19 since you like the 17's grip more but still have the concealability of a 19 with regular mags. http://www.ajaxgrips.com/ajax/ag

[Drifting Fate]

A Glock trigger is better than a 1911?  I think I snorted my coffee when I heard that one.  Hot coffee coursing through one's sinus passages is a great training tool for learning emergency control of a car traveling at freeway speeds.  But, you do have a point that the Glock has a more noticable trigger reset.  You can learn a 1911's, but the Glock just smacks you on the head and says, "Far enough!" 

Personally, if a 1911 trigger is supposed to feel like the proverbial breaking of the ole glass rod, the Glock trigger feels like ground up beer bottles.  There are few triggers with a more horrid pull than a stock Glock trigger.  Yet, the consistancy makes it highly managable.  It's a fighting gun and it's torture tolerance is nothing short of amazing. 

I've owned a number of Glocks and have kept one, a G17.  A 9mm Glock is what you want when you really need a BANG and not a CLICK.  It's my mushroom-clouds-on-the-horizon (or MCOTH, I like that better than SHTF or TEOTWAWKI) pistol and usually ends up being my belt gun when I don't wimp out and stuff a J-frame in my pocket.

That's a long-winded way of saying, "good choice" on the G19.  I also have a few Hawkepacks bags and love 'em.  Another excellent choice.  It's not snobbery when you buy stuff that works.

[Matt G]

Eric, a few things;
1. Congrats on the promotion.  I'm sure you deserve it.
2. Stand up comedy aint your thang. (jokes were funny though)
3. Agree with your G19 vs 1911 argument.  ($$)  Good luck with it.

Matt G

[Eric R Shelton]

Thanks guys.  And for what it's worth Matt, Re: 2, screw you, my Mom thinks I'm hilarious.   

Regarding the trigger...  Of course it's more fair to say that it feels totally different than the 1911, because the striker and the hammer behave so differently.  I'm going to stand by my assessment of the reset: Far superior to my Kimber, period.

BUT.  As far as the pure pull (press, squeeze, whatever), the Kimber is still the nicer trigger.

The Glock isn't some tricked out, tuned up Cadillac of what used to be a fighting gun.  It's not refined, and would look silly in a fancy leather holster worn with a suit.  A 1911 doesn't always look out of place in that same situation.  I love my 1911 and big honkin' Golden Sabers- that's what I carried today at church.  The Glock is all about function, and that's it.

Even though so many 1911's are now "pretty" or BBQ guns, it's still a damn serious platform.  It's survived the test of time for a reason.

My 1911 trigger moves about an 1/8th of an inch, and then breaks clean.  My Glock goes through 3 felt stages before breaking.  I suspect they're the internal safeties.  But the break on the Glock is not as bad as people say.  It's just that you feel you're way there.  Once there, due to exceptional reset, on a MCOTH type of day I doubt you'd have many complaints.

They're such different animals, I don't know that I'll ever want to be involved in one of those "vs." arguments, because they almost always wind up in a pissing match.  "No, your gun sucks because of X, Y, and Z...!"

Emotionally, I'll stick with the 1911.  It's got a stranglehold on me like Ike on Tina Turner.  But the Glock is designed to take a lickin' and keep on tickin'- and I have a lot of respect for a design with pure function in mind.

[Matt G]

Yeah Eric, my mom thinks I'm "handsome" but that dont make it so.  That aside, I am 100% tracking what you are saying.  Sometime you are ready for a change to keep things "Fresh".  If you get my drift.

Matt

[N.U.G.U.N.]

Hey Eric,

You inspired me... ;-)

http://nugun.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/bug-out-bag-the-beginning/