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« on: May 01, 2011, 11:47:41 PM »

OK, it's good news for the US and the World that Osama Bin Laden, was killed at the hands of some very brave and very skilled American Warriors.  We smoked his ass out and nailed him.  Now, this will likely spur many attempts by his minions to retaliate.  So please be vigilant, remember your situational awareness skills and please take every precaution necessary.  Please use every tool you have for self defense and be ready.  Carry your guns wherever you can and be ready to use them if necessary.  Don't take anything for granted, be wary of others around you that you may not know.  Don't fall asleep thinking that now that he's been eliminated that our security will return to normal.  Far from it.  Stay tuned and develop the mind of a civilian warrior. 

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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2011, 11:41:40 AM »

Next stop (I hope): Tehran

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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2011, 11:49:51 AM »

That would be nice.
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2011, 08:31:06 PM »

Not to be that guy but dies anyone else feel like the whole burial at sea business was dne a little quickly.

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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2011, 08:57:59 PM »

Yes, it was done to satisfy muslim tradition of burying the dead within 24 hours.  But it begs the question, what do we care here in the U.S. about proper muslim burial tradition, when this guy was an enemy of the U.S.?  We are not a Muslim country. 
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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2011, 12:37:16 AM »

I'm thankful we did get rid of the bastard.  If we kept him, then all the freaks out there would accuse us of parading his body around.  Those conspiracy theory whack-jobs that think we got rid of the body because we didn't really kill him would probably think the body was faked anyway.  This is one of those damned-if-you-do/damned-if-you-don't situations.  As an active duty Naval officer, I'm sure those folks on the carrier were happy to not have to carry the body around any longer than needed.
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2011, 03:12:13 AM »

Yes, it was done to satisfy muslim tradition of burying the dead within 24 hours.  But it begs the question, what do we care here in the U.S. about proper muslim burial tradition, when this guy was an enemy of the U.S.?  We are not a Muslim country.

Except in Deerborne, MI.  Obama is a cowardly dhimmi.  I wouldn't be surprised if his next tour of Arab countries is to apologize for us having to kill OBL.

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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2011, 08:08:03 AM »

I would second Bob. We have NO requirement to follow ANY muslim tradition or requirement. That SOB was an enemy, and the muslims don't treat enemies well, so we don't particularly have to either.

I believe having his body to display would go a long way towards both decreasing any conspiracy theories AND provide better closure to the many remaining victims of the Sept 11th massacre. THAT we have an obligation to do. Furthermore, I would see no reason that we would have to apologize or any other action for not following islaamic requirements in OBL's situation. Open defiance would serve us better.
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2011, 08:19:06 AM »

Dev, agreed, but that's now how BHO does things.  That was already demonstrated when he groveled before the arabs right after his inauguration.  Now that we've really gone and pissed off the extremists, I'm certain he'll find another way after the next attack (we all know its coming) to apologize to the muslims again for killing OBL.
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2011, 09:51:47 AM »

I dont like the guy (Obama) but he did give an unambiguous kill order.  He could have easily given some waffly ass "capture if you can" order.  There are already hippies wringing their hands about it.  He also could have done this with cruise missiles like Bubba would have.  Good for him for having at least that much sack.

You cant make everyone happy but you can do things smart.  i think his body was handled smart.  No one can prove we desecrated his remains with this method, there are no remains that could conceivably one day be used as a shrine, not even an accurate position fix on where we dumped his body.  Those muslims who care about the treatment of remains have received no more ammunition from this incident than they had to. 
Likewise not releasing the vids and pics yet is smart.  Conspiracy theories will start either way you do it.  No pics, people will claim it didnt happen.  If we do release them, the same people will claim it was faked.  So, you dont release the pics, let the furor build and then release the pics to other world leaders to prove he is dead.  THEY leak the pics and the White House doesnt look like they are reacting to conspiracy nuts.  The conspiracy nuts are then counterpointed by evidence and the ones that are capable of being convinced are convinced and those that cant are discredited in public opinion.  If they had released the pics up front, the conspiracy theories would have developed anyway and they would have had nothing to refute them.  There is no perfect solution but this seems the best all around.

As to the release of any gruesome pics, theMuslim world wont care, they are used to this stuff and want to be sure he is dead.  Only hippies will be upset about releasing pictures.
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2011, 10:12:19 AM »

From what I understand, they WERE given a "capture if you can" order with a "kill him if you can't " added on.

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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2011, 10:17:42 AM »

I really don't see that as an issue - if you captured him, you might be able to sweat info out of him that is useful, much like Khalid. You then have the problem of what to do with him afterward. This was cleaner.

But I DO appreciate that it was a raid and kill, rather than a Raptor from Utah. SO much more satisfying! WE killed him - Americans, in person. Last thing he saw in THIS life was an American pulling the trigger.
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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2011, 12:45:08 PM »

Yeah, while he tried to use his wife as a human shield.

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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2011, 12:50:59 PM »

Yeah, while he tried to use his wife as a human shield.

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Yup! But then, he's a scumbag, which we've always known. Correction, WAS a scumbag - now he's fish food.

BTW, ?did you know there is a hogfish that lives in the sea. Heh, heh! (It's actually true!)
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Yeah, while he tried to use his wife as a human shield.

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The using his wife as a human shield, along with his having a weapon is being refuted now.  The first story is always wrong.  Nothing to do with people telling the truth, just the result of pushing information too fast.
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« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2011, 05:36:32 PM »

Apparently he was unarmed, the last news report I heard. Don't they have CCW in Pakistan?   Huh
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« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2011, 07:09:35 PM »

Absolutely! All you have to do is be a member of the ISI.
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« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2011, 08:47:09 AM »

Why rub salt in a fresh wound? Honoring the traditional muslim burial was probably the smart thing but it would have made the US feel better to parade his body around. But again, beating a dead horse or something like that..... Kill instead of capture was probably smart too. Can you imagine the break out attempts if we were trying to imprison OBL?
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« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2011, 01:30:18 PM »

Yes, it was done to satisfy muslim tradition of burying the dead within 24 hours.  But it begs the question, what do we care here in the U.S. about proper muslim burial tradition, when this guy was an enemy of the U.S.?  We are not a Muslim country. 
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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2011, 06:19:20 AM »

Worrying about his burial shows that we're not savages like they are.
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