I can't stand Gun Rights Radio Network anymore

[VSpeck]

I can't stand GRRN anymore either.... My IPhone is always dead from listening to podcast all day, I cant seem to find anytime to be bored at work anymore, Guys at work look at me crazy when I'm laughing listening to Gun Dudes on my headphones and I've spent many nights awake reading the book I won listening to the bar stool discussion that I'm sure the guys gave a way just to ruin my sleep.....


Just kidding. Thanks to all the podcasters for what you guys do. Its great info you guys put out as well as on here. As far as the sponsors everybody listening can vote with your money. If you dont like the sponsor dont buy from them or donate to them. If the investment becomes not worth it the sponsor will leave.

As far as the "Theft" I personally dont see this incident as much of a problem. Mark hurt nobody and I'm sure the hotel made a decent amount of money from hosting the event to cover the KwH, if that, that Mark used. Like the previous poster said it would be no problem had Mark not mentioned it, but hind sight is always 20/20. The real theft to me is $1000/outlet thats insane. I wouldn't worry about "Joe Jones" he seems like a pissed off guy with a motive. As a member of many forums you see many post like his trying to smear some person or company and no one takes it serious because he will never post there again. The good thing is that maybe some more people will come over and listen to some podcasts and see for themselves that you guys arent all that bad as long as you dont mind a dead mp3 player battery.

[Charlie Foxtrot]

Good words, VS.

But... the GunDudes are a guilty pleasure best indulged alone. I speak from experience. People tend to notice the guy laughing to himself. I'm sure I'm now on Janet Napolitano's "Armed Giggler" list. 

Who knew guns could be so damn funny?

[xmunckx]

Hmmmm...
$1000 to use a power outlet ....
I bet they would be willing to negotiate that price if they saw me lugging in a gas powered generator to plugs phone into.

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[Teamklr2bar]

haha,  No what they would do is tell you that you would have to let a union person lug it in for you, and that that would cost $1500. haha

[Doc Wesson]

For next year.. Mark and I are looking to train Guinea Pigs to row a tiny boat (http://goo.gl/y0v7H)................  of course that would break the no animal rules then......

[Alex Haddox]

All PR is good PR?

It appears the post introduced at least a few people to podcasting and we got a lot of name drops. /meh


Mark is correct, GRRN is now big enough to have haters. Woo hoo! Go us!

[jmstevens2]

You know, not all unions and union members are evil. If they are don't call 911 when you are sick, house is on fire, or you need a cop.

Jack
Retired Firefighter

[Teamklr2bar]

jmstevens2:  I wholeheartedly agree.  I knock unions in general and maybe that is unfair. My apologies.  There are just so many cases of power corrupting and turf wars leading to ridiculous policies that can affect not only the workers but the patrons of businesses of services.  Thank you for keeping me honest.  And thank you to all of out Military, Police, Firefighters, Coast Guard, and EMT's out there, union or not.

Mace Ward

[Bob Mayne]

I learned a long time ago, that negative criticism is actually a good thing.  It means that people are listening.  You can't please everyone, that's a given.  When your show or network gets big enough to have haters out there that post in public forums, etc., you've now probably got a substantial audience.  That's when I knew I had a fair amount of listeners out there.  When people stopped agreeing with everything I said and quit sending me pats on the back emails saying "good job" and started challenging me on a few things, that's when I knew I had a decent sized audience.  So look at the positive, GRRN must be doing something right. 

I would love to get Mr. Jones on my show to do an interview so he can "air it out" and tell me and my listeners why the GRRN is so bad.  I would be quite respectful to him and let him have his say.  But somehow, I get the feeling he would chicken out.  He'd rather hide behind his keyboard and computer, where feels more comfortable and doesn't get challenged. 

As for the electricity thing, Mark I think you did plenty of good deed for the SAF in helping them recruit attendees to the conference.  I think you've given back to them in plenty of ways.  That's probably something Mr. Jones doesn't know or even care about.

[Herknav]

All right, Mark.  You asked for my opinion.  (In no particular order.)

First, as has been previously noted, Joe didn't address any of his concerns here - either publicly or privately (to my knowledge).  This shows a lack of 1) testicular fortitude and 2) desire to actually fix anything.  Reference Teddy Roosevelt's comments on critics.

Second, the podcast didn't cost him a dime.  On a related note, if he were to support GRRN, then GRRN wouldn't have to sell ads.

Third, has he contacted any of his favorite podcaster to attempt to get them to come back?

Fourth, "Fudd" =/= "hunter".  A Fudd is a hunter who is willing to sell other gun owners down the river as long as it doesn't endanger his hunting arm(s).  This person truly believes the 2A is about hunting.  (See also "Zumbo.")  To my fellow forum members - please don't paint all hunters with the Fudd brush because it's simply not true.

Fifth, you (Mark) have been begging for folks to start podcasts for as long as I can remember.  If you think GRRN needs a hunting podcast, then start one.  I don't think there's a single person affiliated with GRRN who wouldn't help you succeed in that endeavor.  Of course, that would take some effort on Joe's part.

Sixth, I hope Joe doesn't live in a glass house.  

Seventh, Joe might at least try posting here before claiming censorship, but that would imply that he was actually seeking a solution.

Eighth, keep up the good work, Mark.

Cheers,
Herk

ETA -- Michael Bane has some good thoughts on critics in this week's podcast.

[HRCNICK11]

If I had to guess I'd say he is a auto worker, they tend to get that head in the sand union outlook(sorry but its 80% true of the ones I deal with in Detroit).  My company automatically schedules a extra week on a one week job if it happens in a union shop.  Cause it takes that long to cut through the red tape to get anything done.  Now you might think I have a problem with unions but thats not true my father works in a union and has all my life.  I have issue with bloated unions like the auto unions and the hotel unions in Chicago. 

We run into the electrical issue all the time, the reason it started was for safety and was put in place so only trained electricians were taping into power boxes.  They then learned they could lock everyone out and make money on it.  In the auto plants they shut off the breakers and you have to have a union electricians come and turn on the breaker for the outlet you need after they make sure you have a ground fault box plugged in before your cord.  The problem with this is it takes a day to plug into a outlet instead of 30 seconds.  In the new plants they don't have enough electricians  so they give us training on using the ground fault outlets before we are allowed on site and then kick us out f we don't used them correctly.  This added training takes 5 min or less. 

Here I will give you the ground fault training right now its easy.   "While on site you must use a ground fault yellow pigtail plug on everything you plug into a outlet unless it is hard wired by a union electrician".  "Now sign here that you know this and that you know you will be told to leave the property if we see you use a outlet with out a ground fault pigtail".  "Oh and make sure its not a trip hazard either".   Your Signature here:___________________________________

OK here is the sticker for your hard hat.  You now do not need trades to come and plug in your laptop.

PS. the pipe fitters are great to work with no problems what so ever.  Millwrights, some are great some are a pain.  (in auto plants)

[simpleguy]

Mark,

I have been listening to you et al, since virtually the beginning, I'm continually amazed at how pissed folks are when they get stuff for free.........

Carry on, I love this network,

Scott Shaw

[gitt1]

I'm continually amazed at how pissed folks are when they get stuff for free.........

That explains a lot about what's going on in this country right now!

[buddyemily]

These comments are way off base. The GRRN is awesome. There are legions of fans out here. Screw the haters. You guys are great....especially Bob Mayne and the Gun Dudes.

[Lawrence]

 Oh come on! There is no better place to be when it comes to guns, fun and freedom.
This guy is is a joke. Don't pay attention to him.
Now to the podcasters:
One thing we should remember is criticism not always comes from haters.
Some of my best improvements in life came from listening to loyal opposition.
Sometimes people Just CARE ENOUGH TO COMMENT. Specially when asked to.
Well, let's look at the big picture. This is heck of a network.

[Bob Mayne]

Let me say this about critics. I welcome them.  I like criticism, good or bad.  It helps keep me sharp and warns me when I'm not.  That doesn't mean I will always AGREE with my critics.  Everyone has opinions and obviously they don't all agree.  Sometimes people mistake my disagreement with their critique, with being angry.  I don't get angry, but I might disagree.  Sometimes I agree with the criticism and either correct my mistake or change my show in such a way that satisfies those critics.

Criticism is healthy, but to those who render an opinion, please know that the podcaster may not necessarily agree with you and that's his or her right to do that, just as it's your right to criticise.

Having said all of this, the only thing I ever ask of anyone who critiques my show, is have a good reason, or example or basis for your criticism.  Don't just say "that was a bad episode" or "this network sucks" or "that episode, Bob, was useless."  Rather, give an example of your point, back it up with facts and offer a suggestion for improvement. 

Sometimes people get emotional, go on Facebook, Twitter or another forum and tee off on a network or podcaster, with no factual information to back it up. 

Thank you,
Bob Mayne

[Lawrence]

Bob, since from the start I haven't seen one single episode of your show that I could call it useless or bad. On the contrary. There is never been a week when I am not listening to you for more than a year now. If a person get to the point of calling the show useless, he or she is not really interested in contribute with their views. Our common interest in this forum go from  guns, to training, gun rights and  competition. Some find gun laws more interesting than training. And it's ok. I particularly like shows about training and  SD. This is been covered very well in your show. Like said in the past, there is plenty podcasts here to choose. No reason to bash or attack podcasters.