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Kevlar with Doc Wesson, Part 2 - We continue our discussion with Doc Wesson on the subject of Kevlar vests. In Part 2 we discuss the vest manufacturing process and the care and maintenance of vests. Check out the Armed Citizens' Legal Defense Network: http://armedcitizensnetwork.org/ 
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2012, 11:17:38 PM » |
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Enjoyed the show immensely.
As someone which occasionally has to wear body armor for work I had actually been waiting for an episode like this.
For a long time I have used a vest with from and rear 1/4" steel plates with a NIJ III rating.
I was always a bit spooked by the things that could possibly go wrong with Kevlar.
That being said I was just handed a new vest by a coworker.
(I think they are feeling bad that I lug around so much extra weight)
The new vest is made of something called " Dyneema/Twaron ".
I am curious what, if anything someone can tell me about this material. does it fall apart in sunlight as if it were a vampire? Does it melt from moisture like the Wicked Which?
Should I stick with the steel?
Any info would be great thanks.thanks
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2012, 07:42:46 PM » |
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I placed an order do a US Palm defender. I will post my thoughts when it comes in.
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2012, 01:23:05 PM » |
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So no one knows just what the heck Dyneema us then?
Not giving me much in the way if confidence here.
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2012, 01:23:05 PM » |
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2012, 06:58:32 PM » |
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i do know,but...had no time to post.. will do it soon.. but in th e meantime.. you are good to go with the dyn.
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2012, 07:34:45 PM » |
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Ok. Thanks.
Eager to hear your thoughts on it.
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2012, 12:36:26 PM » |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DyneemaWe used Dyneema/Spectra lines for our spinnaker guys and sheets. Small diameter, light weight, insanely strong, with very low stretch under load. However, they were a stone pelosi to coil and stow - very stiff. Care had to be taken not to kink them. Overall, good stuff. They're now replacing standing rigging usually made out of Stainless wire with Dyneema. Lighter weight and less stretch than wire. Vests? - sounds like a great use. Daddy wants.
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2012, 12:57:29 PM » |
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Hmmmm. Given those marine applications I am inclined to think it doesn't have the same issues with moisture.
That correct?
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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2012, 01:15:06 PM » |
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The line had an outer cover, but that was for handling and abrasion resistance. I don't believe there was any special encapsulation. The line core of Dyneema/ Spectra was pretty much just naked white/translucent braided fibers. We used the lines hard for three seasons and they were still on the boat when we sold her.
And yeah, they got VERY wet.
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2012, 10:44:13 AM » |
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Dang, Doc! I wish we had covered this topic last year when we first started talking about it! Great discussion.
Listening to the show, it does make Kevlar sound fragile. Is it really that easy to compromise or did we hit that point too hard?
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2012, 11:32:40 AM » |
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No not that fragile...
sounds like more recording is in order to cover these things....
Can cover Dyneema and Spectra too.....
otherwise i am going to need to get typing responses.. cause it is gonna take awhile!
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2012, 03:00:41 PM » |
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I think I see a Part 3 on the horizon!
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2012, 06:21:25 AM » |
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Looking forward to the 3rd installment!
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