The .22

[Bluefox]

I have a 2 questions for everyone, The first an easier one would be if you drop a .22 round into water can you pull it out and fire it? Say for example hiking in the woods and you have a .22 with you but drop your box of ammo into the creak can you fish them out and use them still?

My second questing and one for a small debate is that i am looking for a good .22 without breaking the bank, I have been told that a rugur 10/22 is very nice but im also looking at the new Survive Rifle that breaks down into the stock, the second im liking more for the reason that it is much easier to throw into a back pack when hiking. Im trying to stick to rifles in the .22 cal but if you know a solid pistol as well im always open to options.

Thanks for any and all who respond 

[Charlie Foxtrot]

 
IMNSHO, you can't go wrong with a 10/22.  It was my first rifle -- and it's still my favorite.  They're relatively cheap, accurate, very reliable, and backed by Ruger.  Aftermarket accessories and parts are readily available.  The "survival" AR-7(?) don't have the best rep.  A friend had one - and it couldn't hit the broadside of Rosie O'Donnell's butt.

I've shot 22s that have been doused with water without a problem.  But I'd pass on any ammo that has been underwater for a significant amount of time. 

The GRRN Rimfire Podcast would be a good one to listen to. 

[Bob Mayne]

The "survival" AR-7(?) don't have the best rep.  A friend had one - and it couldn't hit the broadside of Rosie O'Donnell's butt.

Now that's some funny stuff right there!     Just how big is that, anyway?

Suggestion:  Check out the new Ruger 10-22 Takedown, http://www.ruger.com/products/1022/index.html

[Ken Kowalski]

The "survival" AR-7(?) don't have the best rep.  A friend had one - and it couldn't hit the broadside of Rosie O'Donnell's butt.

Now that's some funny stuff right there!     Just how big is that, anyway?

Suggestion:  Check out the new Ruger 10-22 Takedown, http://www.ruger.com/products/1022/index.html

You stole the suggestion right out of my mouth Bob.
The Ruger 10/22 Takedown has my attention. It'll be vastly superior to the AR-7,
and have 10,000 aftermarket products behind it to boot. It'll cost a little bit more,
but would be WELL worth it in the long run. I'll be picking one up for sure when I
get home from deployment. (Just between us, I'm already talking to Clint Beyer
about one of his shrouded barrels to fit the 10/22 TD).

http://www.beyerbarrels.com/Barrels.html

Hey CF, thanks for the plug!!

[Bluefox]

I completely forget about the Rugur Take down, That is a good option for the size and yea the 10/22 has about 10,000 different accessories for them. I may end up picking up the take down Rugur 10/22 If i do ill take some pictures and let you guys know how the accuracy is.

[Devereaux]

IIRC, there are two advantages of the survival rifle - at least the old one. First, it is all in one piece, as the parts pack into the stock (kind of reminds you of an old Mauser Broomhandle, now doesn't it!) and second, it floats if dropped in the water. OTOH, if you can't hit anything with it, you might as well just carry a nice stick you find along the side of the trail - it would be handy to hick with, and you don't have to clean it.

I don't own a 10/22 - the one in my safe is my son's. But I have become a BIG fan of take-down's. I first ran into take-downs when I got my '97 Winchester, and it was SO cool, I just drooled. THEN I found a little .22 by Remington, but based on the Browning design that was a take-down. It comes apart right at the barrel, feeds through the stock, kind of like the old stuff that you once ran into at the fairs (I'm at least old enough to remember that, although you young whippersnappers may not be), and ejects out the bottom. It is a buckhorn rear sight but remarkably accurate. And then I bought my 1886 Winchester in .45-70 that also is a take-down. Winchester makes a totally cool rifle take-down system, which I believe you can find in all their levers - or at least the 1800 series after Browning began designing them. I don't believe there are any '66's or '73's or '76's that are take-down.

I didn't actually know there was a 10/22 take-down. But I just may have to go buy one now. Didn't care for the synthetic stocks, but all that can probably be replaced without a lot of effort.

[Bluefox]

Looking at a decent amount of reviews i have seen some difference with them one being that they are great at returning to zero with a scope mounted after breakdown, the second of course is the opposite, once its put back together its about 2 to 4 inches off at 50 yards. I know when looking for a good 10/22 or just a solid .22 cal there is many options to look at and one of the big ones is what am i going to use it for. Myself i want to use it for a longer distance shooting gun, "setting up a scope on it" and would not like to go through a few rounds to re center the scope every time i break it down, so in that sense i may go for a solid non break down rifle. But on the other hand i know for Iron Sights then a break down is decent as the sights are all on the barrel so getting back to the same grouping is quite easy. Gahhhhhh why cant choosing a gun be easy some times 

[Charlie Foxtrot]

 
Well -- you can always do what we do: buy 'em all.


And then try to sneak 'em into the gun safe.   

Here's my two 10/22s: Liberty Training Rifles 

 

[Bluefox]

If I could do that without the wife practicing there accuracy on me for spending that much i would 

[Devereaux]

 
Well -- you can always do what we do: buy 'em all.


And then try to sneak 'em into the gun safe.   

Here's my two 10/22s: Liberty Training Rifles 

 

+1!

Start working on the "forest and trees" approach, Blue. When you have a "forest" of gun barrels, she won't notice another "tree" that easily. And once you've had it for a month or two, it is CLEARLY an "old" gun!

[Charlie Foxtrot]

  
I have no idea why several closets full of matching shoes, purses, and other accessories with half-lives of a politician's promise are absolute necessities of life; but firearms, all of which are are still around and increasing in value, are damn foolish wastes of money.  

But, they are.  So deal with it.

Cheat.

You'll both be happier.  

[Tennessee Jed]

 
I have no idea why several closets full of matching shoes, purses, and other accessories with half-lives of a politician's promise are absolute necessities of life; but firearms, all of which are are still around and increasing in value, are damn foolish wastes of money.  

But, they are.  So deal with it.

Cheat.

You'll both be happier.  

Outstanding.  Simply outstanding.