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« on: May 15, 2012, 02:09:28 PM » |
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Michael Bane has been let loose in the candy store NRA Firearms Museum. He's got a shot of a pristine Winchester 1894 with a factory mounted Maxim silencer. "TR ordered this gun from Winchester for those occasions when he didn't want to annoy his upscale neighbors like the DuPonts with a little plinking." .30 WCF (thuty-thuty) plinking is plinking with athori taaay. Ol' Teddy (the good Roosevelt) sure knew his firearms. Go ahead and drool: TR's Silencer
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2012, 04:43:44 PM » |
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Out-freaking-standing! That is exactly what I need to add to my collection, a suppressed 30-30. Why the heck didn't I think of this before?
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2012, 05:01:30 PM » |
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That ol' Teddy, he was one smart bear.
When you think about it, a lever is just about the best type of firearm for a suppressor: with a locked bolt, so there's no extraneous action noise or venting gases, and the lever's quick second, third, fourth... shot capability.
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2012, 06:25:31 PM » |
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Great weapon!
Still have the issue of the supersonic boom to deal with but that's beside the point I guess. Silencers are interesting. Some of their benefit is a simple decrease in overall noise, not making them noiseless. If you've ever shot a suppressed .22, you find the only one that is "noiseless" is the subsonic round. Shoot a high vel round and you get that unmistakable crack of a firearm.
You know, there are SO many cool weapons - and SO many stupid government rules about why we can't own them.
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2012, 08:52:04 PM » |
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If I did my math correctly, the speed of sound is about 1126 fps. None of my loading manuals get anywhere near that low. So subsonic thuty-thuty may not be attainable. Still a pretty neat lever.
I can just see Teddy; "Franklin, you little prig, run out a 100 yards and hold up this target. Bully!"
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2012, 10:15:40 PM » |
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Oh, I hope I didn't imply that somehow you could get a .30-30 to be subsonic. Be a very empty case.
Love the pic of sending Franklin out to hold the targets. But do remember that Teddy was a pretty serious progressive his own self. Just not as destructive as his cousin.
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2012, 10:34:14 PM » |
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Nope Dev, your post triggered the thought: I wonder if I could roll my own subsonic .30-30? The answer: Oh, hell no! Although... there's the subsonic .300 Blackout...
Moot point, as I live in $18.6B in the red (how appropriate) Kalifornia. Suppressors are banned, as are all other NFA items.
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2012, 12:18:58 PM » |
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Some famous Model 29 Wheelie Love for the overcompensating Doc and Grant. 
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2012, 05:32:46 PM » |
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Great pics, Charlie, thanks for pointing them out. I'da missed 'em otherwise.
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2012, 09:46:41 PM » |
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Scooter; They're from Michael Bane's BlobHis blog and Down Range Radio 'casts are well worth any gunny's time.
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