Bob, Which G19 are you sportin'

[Eddie0611]

Bob,
I just recently bought a G19 Gen4. I was aware of the ejection issues but had read in a few places that it was fixed by a different recoil spring. So I had pursued it. The local gun shop I purchased it from told me the issues were resolved. I have only about 150 rds through mine. I haven't experienced it yet, but I am anticipating it because I read around 200 - 300 rounds is when it starts happening. I was wondering if you have a G19 Gen4 and if so did you experience these issues. If you did what did you do about it? I love the podcast! keep up the great work!

Regards,
Eddie

[Bob Mayne]

Do you mean brass hitting your face or failure to eject?  The newest Gen 4's have a different style of ejector. Google it and you'll see a picture of the difference. Neither of mine have been a problem but I only have 300 rounds through each.

[Eddie0611]

Do you mean brass hitting your face or failure to eject?  The newest Gen 4's have a different style of ejector. Google it and you'll see a picture of the difference. Neither of mine have been a problem but I only have 300 rounds through each.

My bad Bob, yes the brass to the face issue. I am aware the ejector is somewhat different. I have read that folks are polishing off a small anount of material which seems to resolve the issue until they hit 800 - 1000 rounds and it sometimes starts up again. I was just curious if you had experienced it. Can you post up in the thread if you start experiencing the issue and any steps you take? I LOVE my G19. If this starts happening I want as much info as possible on the most efficient way to handle.

Eddie

[Lawrence]

Brass hitting the face? Uh oh.
That would be a deal breaker to me.

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[Mudcat]

I just recently picked a gen 4 G19 previous owner said  it had 300 rounds through it. I have since ran about 400 rounds through it. I have not had and brass in my face. Pretty consistently throws brass about 3:30-4:00.


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[bsynco]

I too have had the brass to the face issue...but with a gen 3. In my case, the problem is overrated. First, it only happens about 1 out of 100 rounds. Secondly, I've only had it happen with Rem UMC. Finally, it wasn't coming out "at full speed"...more like a straight up eject. Really, it was more like I was hitting he brass with my face  .

Anyway, I love my G19!

[Bob Mayne]

I was at the range this weekend with a buddy of mine who just purchased a new Gen4 G21.  Very nice gun by the way.  When he shot it, about 1 out of 8 pieces of brass hit him in the head or neck.  When I shot it, NONE of them did.  Go figure.  We were using the same ammo. 

However, Glock has told him they will take care of it and pay the shipping both ways.  If it continues to be a problem.  I now have 4, Gen4 Glocks.  I don't have any brassing hitting me with either of them.

[Eddie0611]

Very Intereresting! Well I have been good so far with another 100 rounds through it. I should have another hundred through it by week end. Thanks for the update Bob!

Eddie

[Damian]

Here is some info. about the Gen 4 Glocks.

There are 3 parts that have been upgraded by Glock since the release of the Gen 4.  If you contact Glock, they will usually replace the parts for free.  I suggest going to a local GSSF match and have the Glock Armorer on site replace all 3 parts for free.  

First Part: RSA

The first part that you need to make sure you replace is the Recoil Spring Assembly.  The early models of the Gen 4 had a spring that was a little too tight or the tension was a little high.  This was more of an issue with the 9mm than it was with the .40 S&W.

The latest RSA should have the following numbers on the flat plate of the base.  0, 4, 3.  The 0 is on the left, the 4 on the right and the 3 on the bottom.  If you have this RSA, you have the new and improved version that prevents any potential issues.

Second Part: Ejector

The next part you want to change is the Ejector.  Glock has a new ejector that prevents the rounds from hitting your head every now and then.  This is not a big issue, but it happened enough that people complained and Glock fixed it.  I would get hit by one in every 50 or so rounds.  With the new Ejector, I have not experience any issues.  In fact, the new Ejector shoots the casing almost at a 90 degree angle from the slide.  Your shooting butty next to you should be aware of this.  

Third Part: Connector

The next part you need to replace is the Connector of your trigger assembly.  The new connector is called the Dot ( . ) Connector.  You should see a small dot on the end of the connector for verification.  What this does is smooth out the trigger by reducing the pull by .5 lb.  This may not sound like much but the new shape to this connector also makes the trigger a little smoother than the original.  I have taken mine to the range and test this new connector out and it's nice.  The trigger pull is lighter and smoother.

That's about it.  Once you replace these 3 parts, you have all the latest components.  I think Glock will send them to you free of charge if you contact them.  I am a Glock Armorer but had all mine replaced at the last GSSF match I attended, so it was extra simple for me.

As for my G19 Gen4.  I have 2,450 rounds through it.  In total I have 3 FTE's.  I think it was my fault and possible the White Box ammo I was shooting.  In all 3 cases, I feel that I may have limp wristed my grip, so I think it was user error more than anything else.

I look forward in putting another 650+ rounds through it during the Close Range Gun Fighting Class on July 28th in San Antonio, Texas.  

I am going to attempt an IDPA match before then but in any case, my G19 Gen4 will have over 3,000 rounds through it by the end of this month.

Hope the information can help someone.  If you need pictures, let me know and I will do my best to take some good ones and post them on this thread.

Thanks

"Semper Portare"

[Lawrence]

I am glad Glock fixed the problems. It's quite discouraging when a reputable brand like Glock has issues with a product and like you mentioned, not only one part but 3 right out of the box. I  am very inclined to go for the G19 Gen3 but since you say it's solved and got good reports here I am more confident with the Gen4

[Damian]

I am glad Glock fixed the problems. It's quite discouraging when a reputable brand like Glock has issues with a product and like you mentioned, not only one part but 3 right out of the box. I  am very inclined to go for the G19 Gen3 but since you say it's solved and got good reports here I am more confident with the Gen4

I don't consider the new connector or the ejector to be fixes but improvements.

The RSA was an issue that I consider a fix.

Just wanted to point out that the Gen4 really only had one main issue and it was the RSA.  The dot connector is just an improvement and the ejector is the same.

The Gen4's are running great.  I think you will like the larger mag release, the texturing, the thinner frame and back strap options.  I would be confident in telling anyone that the Gen4 is fantastic.  Those of you who held out should get most of the new and improved components with your firearm. 

"Semper Portare"

[Bob Mayne]

I have the .dot connectors in all of my Gen 4 Glocks.  I really like the trigger pull.  Even better than the old -minus connector in the Gen 3 Glocks like the 3.5lb connectors in the G34.

[Damian]

Bob,

After Close Range Gunfighting, I now have 3,200 rounds through my G19 Gen4.  I had zero failures at the class with 750 rounds through it.  I have a total of 4 FTE's in 3,200 rounds.

Not bad if you ask me.

Going to install my new "Ace of Diamonds" sights from Speed Sights today and going to the range tomorrow.

[Bob Mayne]

As you saw, I hit the steel target at 60 yards 5 times in a row with my G19 and Speed Sights.